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A Note about Copyright and Crediting

Sun Apr 15, 2012, 7:43 PM
:iconcymae:


Hello lovely people.

I'd just like to give you guys a reminder about three points of copyright that come up quite often and I think people are confused about. I don't want to see any of you get in trouble, so here's some things that you should remember:

Characters Ripped out of Games and Screenshots


Ripping models out of games and using them in your art is absolutely 100% not allowed on DA. This is considered a copyright infringement. Passing these around to others just makes things even worse. Please make sure you don't do this and don't use resources that have been taken from games.

I can't stress this enough, make sure any stock models you use are from people who either made them or have express permission to supply them to you.

Screenshots are a bit more of a grey area. Some game companies let you post them some don't. If you MUST post screenshots, please make sure they are correctly labeled and credited, and put in the Fan Art gallery.

Game screenshots don't belong in 3D Art. If you are taking a screenshot of an engine-render because you worked on the game, that goes in Game Development Art, but please let us know exactly what your contribution was.

Giving Credit where Credit is Due


If you are using any resources which require you to give credit for use, please do so. Additionally, if you have created an image and only part of it is your original work, make sure you clearly explain this.

Do remember some stock models and resources legally require you to give credit in your deviation description. If you're not sure, ask.

I've seen a lot of amazing work which had to be passed over for Daily Deviations because credit was not given where it was due, so don't let this be you!

Fan Art and Game Art


Fan Art is any art you make yourself from scratch based on an existing concept or franchise, and as such belongs in the Fan Art category. This does NOT include ripped game models, screenshots of games or films you've manipulated or anything like that. You must be using 100% your own work or resources which the copyright holder has expressly given permission to be used.

Low poly models made for games belong in Game Development Art, headed up by the lovely WillowXD, please make sure they are categorised properly.

Ask yourself: Is my model made for a game or is it just low poly but not for a game? If it's for a game, it goes to Game Development Art, otherwise it belongs in 3D Art.



Let me know if anybody has questions about this! :)

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:iconxenaleena:
Xenaleena Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
And they always credit to the original game so it isn't stealing its giving credit where credit is due. Models that have been passed around (i.e.Kingdom Hearts rips) most everyone KNOWS that it was from a game and most know it was from that specific game.
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:iconjamesmargerum:
JamesMargerum Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Crediting is meaningless if the owner doesn't know that you are using their work.
Quite a few people on this site actually work in the games industry. How do you think they feel about having their hard work ripped off? (and often then used to make digital porn).

Kingdom Hearts is a particular worry because it's Disney. Having those models on the site could get DA into big trouble with the Mouse Lawyers.
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:iconakemiwhy:
AkemiWhy Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012
yes they know its from that game but they do not have permission from the creators to use those models
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:iconxenaleena:
Xenaleena Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Ahem a lot of people who rip models DO get a copyright first -_-
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:iconstarclan12:
starclan12 Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2012
i did use my own art work i took a picter of it from the game i was playing and used warmth color to make it more darker for the warthhog
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:iconbigfoot5lover:
bigfoot5lover Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
how you change the area or do you have to post the pic again
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:iconkarate-hitomi:
Karate-Hitomi Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I have a question.

When you say "Ripped from a game" do you mean 2D sprites?

And are people allowed to make 2D sprite animations if they give credit to the creator of the sprite in the description/animation?
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:iconjamesmargerum:
JamesMargerum Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ripping means extracting a 3D model from a game.
2D sprites don't belong in any 3D gallery, and the same rules apply as with any art:
FAQ #8: What are violations of the deviantART copyright policy?
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:iconangel20devil:
Angel20Devil Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2012  Hobbyist
I'm confused, do people who have used MMD models from games nned to be scared because of this? _ I know I am at least, can MMD:ers get banned or something for using game models
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:iconcymae:
Cymae Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
As previously mentioned, I think MMD allows use of their models for art and stuff, but I don't know. It always pays to read copyright notices.
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:iconjamesmargerum:
JamesMargerum Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Some people are converting ripped game models to MMD.
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:iconrainnnbow:
rainnnbow Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
i believe the only rips that are allowed are 3D Custom Girl part rips because the game itself has a built-in function with the ability to rip them... other than that, model rips from other games (this includes Project Diva, Kingdom Hearts, Polygon Love 2, etc etc) are not allowed and/or legal uwu;;
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:iconxxrhian-midnightxx:
XxRhian-MidnightxX Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2012
are you saying we can't do mmd anymore
like pictures and comics ???
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:iconkochmann799:
kochmann799 Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
the main point of mmd is that its part of the VPVP aka vocaloid promotional video project aka making fan vids of the vocaloids was sort of the main point of mmd, as long as you dont use game rips youre fine
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:iconxxrhian-midnightxx:
XxRhian-MidnightxX Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012
ok thankyou
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:iconkochmann799:
kochmann799 Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
welcum
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:iconxxrhian-midnightxx:
XxRhian-MidnightxX Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012
people just love to do mmd you see
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:iconkochmann799:
kochmann799 Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
im a contributor of two groups, i love mmd too
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:iconxxrhian-midnightxx:
XxRhian-MidnightxX Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012
aweosme ^^
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:iconkochmann799:
kochmann799 Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
yep ^^
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:iconcymae:
Cymae Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
MMD is a little different because I'm pretty sure there's some point in the copyright statement which lets you use it. As long as you're within the terms of use it's fine.
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:iconxxrhian-midnightxx:
XxRhian-MidnightxX Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2012
ok :d so i can use mmd
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:iconcymae:
Cymae Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
You'd need to check the copyright notice on it. I don't know it off by heart :)
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:iconxxrhian-midnightxx:
XxRhian-MidnightxX Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2012
ok cause people love doing mmd ^^
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:iconaqua11227:
aqua11227 Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2012  Student General Artist
quick question:if we stop putting up stuff like this and keep the stuff like this in our gallery will we still get banned?
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:iconcymae:
Cymae Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I'm not sure, I'm not a staff member so I can't comment on that.
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:iconaqua11227:
aqua11227 Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2012  Student General Artist
ok
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:iconantiwonderlanddark9:
ANTIWONDERLANDDARK9 Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Yes game model using isn't real art but do you know how long it takes to do those models? Pretty damn long and they add tons of stuff on them which take many hours so it is art for your information and i'm not trying to be disrespectful but this all just make's me angry like when Da made some "Manips" people leave i was so angry..
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:iconcymae:
Cymae Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I didn't say it's not art. I said it's not LEGAL.

If you have permission to use the models fine, but if you're ripping someone else's work that's against copyright. You can use things for reference still, that's different.
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ANTIWONDERLANDDARK9 Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2012  Student Digital Artist
...
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:iconsophloulou:
sophloulou Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2012  Hobbyist Filmographer
nope sorry don`t get it....so r not allowed to use modles out of games or yr not allowed to use modles you edited from the other modles from the games?...I really don`t get it...
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:iconcymae:
Cymae Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
You are not allowed to rip models from games and use them at all, whether you edit or credit or not.
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:iconsophloulou:
sophloulou Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2012  Hobbyist Filmographer
oh ok
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:icondarkcreatorfanofdemi:
DarkCreatorfanofDEMI Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Nice one Deviant art
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:iconsophloulou:
sophloulou Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2012  Hobbyist Filmographer
ok...I think I get it...so does doing fanart from games ok?...& just not edit them?
beacuse if thats the case I think I get it...
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:iconcaxceberxvi:
CaxceberXVI Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2012  Student Digital Artist
bad news for the entire MMD comunity.
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:iconxxrhian-midnightxx:
XxRhian-MidnightxX Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2012
hi
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:iconsnowboy95:
Snowboy95 Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2012  Student Interface Designer
Hey there!
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:iconfyexceptionaldaart:
fyexceptionaldaart Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2012
I'm not exactly getting this. Some companies allow people to use their work as fan-art as long as they relinquish all rights to them and do not use it for profit.

At that point it becomes no different from using a stock photo for photo-manipulation or a model for photography. The artist is still responsible for posing, lighting and editing.

So why would DA distinguish between the two? If DA wants to make a model manipulation section so that the non-professional people who do do their stuff from scratch don't have to "compete", then so be it. But as long as people have the permission from the right sources and/or give all credit to the original artists, I do not see a difference from using stock photography or models and using Photoshop - unless there is some sort of bias against artists for using 3D renders instead of real people.
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:iconcymae:
Cymae Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Hi there,

I'm not DA, i'm a volunteer, and my suggestions come as such, they're not "official".

Fanart is fine, there's nothng wrong with fanart, but it should go in the fanart category.

Using stock with permission is ALSO perfectly fine. This blog is more aimed at explaining to people why it's not OK to rip models out of games or other people's work WITHOUT permission, retexture, pose and render.
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:iconfyexceptionaldaart:
fyexceptionaldaart Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2012
I understand now. I was just looking over DA's TOS and it simply seems to state that no copyrighted material is allowed, but there is a gray area between fan art and DA's TOS.
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:iconsweetflowcrazy:
sweetflowcrazy Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012
Should I go about reporting every single deviation from people that blatantly steal models from games and violate copyright?

Or should I contact you with a list of users?

As far as I'm concerned, these are my only two options. The abuse submission feature doesn't seem to be an option, as it appears to only be for escalated harassment.

I believe it's offensive to actual artists that work hard on their creations. I'm in an introductory drawing class in college. Using actual skill is pretty difficult. Painting, drawing, using pencil or photoshop, it requires years of mastery and dedication.

And then these people flood DeviantArt with "renders" from characters ripped directly out of games and create a mockery out of all the skill everyone's involved with.

Anyway, first two questions :D
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:iconantiwonderlanddark9:
ANTIWONDERLANDDARK9 Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Yes game model using isn't real art but do you know how long it takes to do those models? Pretty damn long and they add tons of stuff on them which take many hours so it is art for your information and i'm not trying to be disrespectful but this all just make's me angry like when Da made some "Manips" people leave i was so angry..
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:iconsweetflowcrazy:
sweetflowcrazy Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2012
Well I've been pretty busy, so this message is late, but there are still some simple facts:

Do you know how long it takes to build experience with any sort of artistic medium so that it at least looks somewhat realistic? Obviously not, according to your gallery. That isn't an insult, it's just a point of fact. You have a long way to go.

The truth is that they never created those models. This entire credit whoring situation is primarily what annoys me, though it is pretty annoying that they act like the models belong to them.

"credit me because I extracted it!" and accusations of "THIEF!" Very obnoxious behavior. They don't own copyright.
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:iconxenaleena:
Xenaleena Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I know how long it takes to make something look realistic off the computer. Trust me, I just had to paint a flower and get EVERY single detail right. I also draw anime an that is hard too.

But you dont know how much time and MONEY people put into game rips. Making a model who might LOOK like it isn't the same. AND THEY DONT ACT LIKE THEY OWN THEM!!! Look at the Dl for that specific character and you will see THEY ALWAYS SAY WHERE THEY GOT THE MODEL AND CREDIT THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!! When people use them they credit the person(s) who handed the model out because if you look at the original Dl the game IS CREDITED and the MAKERS of the game are TOO. They don't claim to own the copyright but the physics model and bone/facials. Because making those takes time. And most take the time to get the copyright from the owner of the game, they are glad to hand it to them in most cases. And that takes MONEY.

So don't bash on the people who do these game rips if you have never used them known the person who made them or actually used mmd yourself. SO FUCK OFF
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:iconrainnnbow:
rainnnbow Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
FAQ #157: Can I use things created by other people in my submissions?
FAQ #306: Does "Crediting" let me use whatever I want?

sorry pal, if you dont have signed written consent to rip a model from a game and put it into MMD, then you just committed a crime! :D
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:iconantiwonderlanddark9:
ANTIWONDERLANDDARK9 Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2012  Student Digital Artist
No but they added bones,phyics and such to it so it still counts as there's
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:iconsweetflowcrazy:
sweetflowcrazy Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2012
They did not design the character, the game developers did. If they want to add "bones and physics" they should make their own designs.
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:iconantiwonderlanddark9:
ANTIWONDERLANDDARK9 Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Nevermind i don't wan't to argue
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:iconstefanslittlelove:
StefansLittleLove Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree..manips and models have SO much work up into them!
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